The Nummos/Reptilians were called DOGRI, or DOGIR by the Nubians. They were reffered to as the "UGLY WATER BEINGS".
Ask the Nuwaupians, Is The Dogon Story True As Dr. York Presents It?
Question: Ask the Nuwaupians, Is The Dogon Story True As Dr. York Presents It?
Answer: They'll call you a black devil for even asking the question.
In York's bible, The Holy Tablets he has a small section on the Dogon of Mali and teaches that these Dogons learned of the stars and have star maps because of "reptilian" extraterrestrials who fled Sirius B after "Nibiru's" energy drained Sirius B causing it to collapse. Then these Reptilians chased or followed Nibiru and eventually making their way to Mali, West Africa.
1. How can Reptiles drive space ships?
2. When in history has it ever been recorded that Nibiru drained Sirius B causing it to collapse?
3. If these are amphibian Reptiles and need to live in an aquatic environment, what was their ship, craft or interplanetary vessel made of which propelled them through space?
Above is an illustration of "Haaton", the leader of the Reptilians who taught the Dogon people. So York, using a book by Robert Temple (The Sirius Mystery), has his followers believing that reptiles along with a reptile leader, traveled from Sirius B after Nibiru, caused their sun to collapsed. Sirius B having 2 planets, The Greys "Naarians" on one planet and Nummos (Nommos) Reptilians on the other, Splashed down on earth taking residence in Mali, West Africa.
This fantasy teaching of York was embraced and is currently being taught by the left over believers in York's words. York is basing his views on Temple's book and adding a new twist to an already twisted tale of the Dogon culture by Temple reinterpretation of French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. York even brings in the Akkadian term for the planet Jupiter (Nibiru), following Zecharia Sitchin's science fiction tale of a the Nephilm traveling on Nibiru.
York even had pictures drawn up to dramatically enforce this position.
According to Robert Temple, here's what he claims is a drawing of Nommo, which York also places in his Holy Tablets pg. 359,
York says that the Nommos, these reptilians landed on earth in an "Ark",
The doctrine of York regarding the Dogons is difficult accept, York offers no evidence to support his claims, and base nothing to corroborate the illustrations and names of perspective reptilians. The lack of evidence is what York says,
"...we're not suppose to accept it if you can't prove it..."
-Which Resurrection is Yours? (audio)
York, who was following Temple, uses the logic of,
York, who was following Temple, uses the logic of,
"if it's conceivable, it's possible, if it's probable, it's true"
This mythology that was taught about the Dogons was long before York, the Dogons are a people of about 100,000 who dwell in western Africa. According to Robert Temple, (The Sirius Mystery), the Dogon had contact with some ugly, amphibious Extraterrestrials, the Nommos, some 5,000 years ago. These aliens came here for some unknown reason from a planet orbiting Sirius some 8.6 light years from earth. The alleged visitors from outer space seem to have done little else than give the earthlings some useless astronomical information.
One of Temple's main pieces of evidence is the tribe's alleged knowledge of Sirius B, a companion to the star Sirius. The Dogon are supposed to have known that Sirius B orbits Sirius and that a complete orbit takes 50 years. Temple cites a sand picture made by the Dogon to explain their beliefs. The diagram that Temple presents, however, is not the complete diagram that the Dogon showed to the French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen, who were the original sources for Temple's story. Temple has either misinterpreted Dogon beliefs, or distorted Griaule and Dieterlen's claims, to fit his fantastic story.
Griaule and Dieterlen describe a world renovation ceremony, associated with the bright star Sirius (sigu tolo, "star of Sigui"), called sigui, held by the Dogon every 60 years. According to Griaule and Dieterlen, the Dogon also name a companion star, po tolo "Digitaria star" (Sirius B) and describe its density and rotational characteristics. Griaule did not attempt to explain how the Dogon could know this about a star that cannot be seen without telescopes, and he made no claims about the antiquity of this information or of a connection with ancient Egypt,which Temple adds.
Temple lists a number of astronomical beliefs held by the Dogon that seem curious. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and in elliptical orbits of astronomical phenomena. They seem to have knowledge of the satellites of Jupiter and rings of Saturn, among other things.
"Where did they get this knowledge, he asks, if not from extraterrestrial visitors? They don’t have telescopes or other scientific equipment, so how could they get this knowledge?"
Temple’s answer is that they got this information from amphibious aliens from outer space, which York promotes.
Others claimed that the Dogon could see Sirius B without the need of a telescope because of their special eyesight due to quantities of melanin Dr. Frances Welsing, 1987. "Lecture 1st Melanin Conference, San Francisco, September 16-17, 1987.
Ofcourse, no evidence for this special eyesight, the Dogons having more melanin than any other African people nor for other equally implausible notions such as the claim that the Dogon got their knowledge from Ancient Egyptians who had telescopes.
A Terrestrial Source?
Carl Sagan agreed with Temple that the Dogon could not have acquired their knowledge without contact with an advanced technological civilization. Sagan suggests, however, that it was a terrestrial civilization. Perhaps the source was Temple himself and his loose speculations on what he learned from Griaule, who based his account on an interview with one person, Ambara, and an interpreter.
According to Sagan, western Africa has had many visitors from technological societies located on planet earth. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. Furthermore, there had been a good amount of discussion of Sirius in the scientific press in the '20s so that by the time Griaule arrived, the Dogon may have had a grounding in 20th century technological matters brought to them by visitors from other parts of earth and transmitted in conversation.
Griaule's account may reflect his own interests more than that of the Dogon. He made no secret of the fact that his intention was to redeem African thought. A team led by a Belgian anthropologist Walter Van Beek , spent ten years in the Dogon from 1991. It concluded that there was no trace of a tradition around Sirius Dogon cosmogony had described as Marcel Griaule and Robert Temple.
"Knowledge of the stars is not important either in daily life or in ritual [to the Dogon]. The position of the sun and the phases of the moon are more pertinent for Dogon reckoning. No Dogon outside of the circle of Griaule's informants had ever heard of sigu tolo orpo tolo... Most important, no one, even within the circle of Griaule informants, had ever heard or understood that Sirius was a double star..."
-The Dogons revisited: by Ortiz de Montellano.
The sole proof by proponents of this Dogon theory is the following statement given without attribution or citation,
"A wooden mask called the kanaga, used by the Dogon to celebrate the Sirius-related Sigui ceremony, is among the archaeological finds that indicate their preoccupation with this star for at least 700 years."
-Griaule and Dieterlen (1950; Temple 1976: pg. 37-38
"The kanaga mask represents a crane-like bird, the bustard, and is connected to the Dogon creator god Amma"
-Griaule
The dating of the Sigui ceremony involves a different set of enormous wooden masks that are not worn but kept in protected shelters. These masks were not dated with Carbon 14, and their true age is not known. Griaule extrapolated the age of the masks by counting the number of masks in shelters and multiplying by 60 years per mask because a new mask was made for each 60-year Sigui ceremony.
Most shelters had 3 or 4 masks taking the ceremony back to AD 1720-1760
-Griaule 1938: 242-244; Temple 1976: 38.
A single location had 8 masks, the remains of another and 3 piles of dust, which Griaule (1938: 245) interpreted as possibly three further masks. This very shaky hypothetical extrapolation is the sole evidence dating the Sigui ceremony to AD. 1300, and tells us nothing concerning knowledge of Sirius B, the invisible dwarf star.
York named the title of a chapter in his book, "the Dogon and Sirius Mystery, but the only mystery here is how anyone could take seriously either the notion of amphibious space aliens or telescopic vision due to melanin.
Below are video excerpts of the Dogon "Mask Dance" and The "Sigui Ceremony".
http://vimeo.com/38668923 "Mask Dance"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK2SflVpvNY "The Sigui Ceremony"
Books and Articles:
-Bullard, Thomas. E. "Ancient Astronauts," The Encyclopedia of the Paranormal, ed. G. Stein (Amherst, N.Y. Prometheus Books, 1996), pp. 30-31.
-Griaule, Marcel. Conversations With Ogotemmeli: An Introduction to Dogon Religious Ideas originally published in 1948, reprint (Oxford University Press 1997).
-James, Peter and Nick Thorpe. Ancient Mysteries (Ballantine Books, 1999).
-McDaid, Liam. (2004). "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved mystery resurfaces." Skeptic. 11.1.
-Randi, James. Flim-Flam! (Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books,1982), pp. 68-70.
-Sagan, Carl. Broca's Brain (New York: Random House, 1979), ch. 6, "White Dwarfs and Little Green Men".
-Sagan, Carl. The Demon-Haunted World - Science as a Candle in the Dark (New York: Random House, 1995). Review
-Van Beek, Walter E. A. "Dogon Restudied: A Field Evaluation of the Work of Marcel Griaule," Current Anthropology 32, 1992, pp. 139-167.
-Investigating the Sirius "Mystery" by Ian Ridpath, Skeptical Inquirer, Fall 1978.
-The Dogon Revisited by Bernard R. Ortiz de Montellano
-Can Tales of Sirius Be Serious? by Jay Ingramram
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